Posts by grey matters

why did you choose the alias that you did?

being curious about why people do or act the way they.

do led me to this discussion.

grey matters

Hi, sorry I'm late!

Grey Matters for 3 reasons:

1st - The brain reference. I think intelligence and thought matter. It eventually became obvious to me that the dubs don't.

2nd - Experience matters. After I left, I was upset with myself for staying as long as I did. But hopefully I came out of it wiser as well as older.

3rd - Dubs see life in black and white. Very legalistic, very inflexible. I think life is a lot more complicated than that. I tend to see things in shades of grey.

Oh, and grey, not gray? Well, I work a lot with a few Canadian companies where people tend to spell it that way, so that is just how I am used to seeing it spelled.

Someday, when I get around to it, I will find one of those cartoonish pictures mapping the brain and use that as my avatar. I have been really swamped at work though, and haven't had time to look for one.

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I DID IT!! I DID IT!!! I DID IT!!!!!

by pmouse in

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i have finished my last class and will graduate on october 14th with my bachelors degree in business administration/management thirty three years after graduating from high school and 30 years after leaving the borg!

one more step in the healing process.

and one more step forward with my life.. paula.

grey matters

Awesome! Way to go!

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Shunning mom is floored by UN scandal..first she's heard of it.

by restrangled in

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due to my husbands interactions with my mom with questions about the history of the wbts, i received a phone call from her.

(keep in mind she is 72 years a witness).

i brought up the un thing and she said, thats from apostates.

grey matters

Whoa. Yeah, I'd like to hear what happens next.

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My Story

by ladybug25 in

my parents were baptized when i was three years old.

so, you could say that i was "born and raised" as a jw.

i was baptized at age 11. i was a regular auxilary pioneer from age 14 to 15. my parents became inactive at about age 14. it was very hard trying to be a "good young sister" especially after being told you're a burden to the pioneers that have to always provide rides in service and to/from the meetings.

grey matters

He battles more so than I do because his family wont let up. They bring us the magazines and preach to him everytime they talk.

Yeah, they really need to stop doing that. They are clearly causing a lot of tension that could cause a lot of damage. Some of us react to being pushed like that by pushing back, really hard. That can lead to a serious confrontation. Sometimes we internalize it, and that can be worse. I would really encourage your husband to seek counsel from a therapist. I am not ashamed to say that that has worked well for me. It has helped me to stand my ground (a process my therapist refers to as "individuation") without creating an atomic fireball of confrontation that will cause a complete end to the relationship between my parents and I. It has also helped me to realize that engaging in self destructive behaivior in an attempt to spite the JW's only hurts me.

Most on this board have been where you guys are. We look forward to seeing more of you here.

Oh, and please try to stop worrying about "Armaggedon". The only thing you really need to know about the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses is that they are wrong. Did the "end" come in 1914 when they originally said it would? No. Did it come in 1925 when they said it would? No. Did in come in 1975? No. How about a few years later, when Eve was supposedly created? No. 8 years from now it will be 2014, 100 years after 1914. It won't come then either. It is true that Jesus said that "only the Father knows the day and the hour", but these idiots can't even nail it down to the century. It's pathetic. They simply don't know what they are talking about. So don't worry about it. It isn't going to happen. There are many other pursuits and concerns that are far more worthy of your time.

Best wishes to both of you. This is a tough thing. But you can get through it, as many of us have.

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This makes me sick!!

by Ade in

i just read this as part of one of jgnat's posts its obviously nothing against her take a look and comment.i mean who are they trying to fool.

out of all creation they are "groaning" the most .

our identification as jehovah's witnesses .

grey matters

Heaven forbid that an active JW were to identify themselves as associated with the Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society. That might make the Society responsible

Or a car accident that a publisher has. Remember the car accident involving the Bethelite that got the Society sued because the plaintiff didn't buy the "he's just a volunteer" argument.

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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

by Seeker4 in

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i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

grey matters

I would add that if you personally don't think it should be a disfellowshipping offence to be discussing matters such as this in a forum such as this, if you personally would not disfellowship a publisher for doing so, then why should you feel bad about it?

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Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

by Seeker4 in

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i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

grey matters

I should probably wait until I feel less emotional to respond here, but this is very upsetting to me.

I will stop posting on the board, as you are right others probably have been DFed for doing so and me doing so without retribution may cause harm to others.

What good are we doing by attacking this person personally until he decides to leave? Very few of us left in a day or two and never looked back. He isn't going to get where some of the rest of us are in that short a period of time if we try to speed the process up by attacking him. He is obviously having a difficult time dealing with his feelings on a lot of issues right now. We should treat him the same as anyone else having that sort of difficulty.